Henry Bryan
Sex: M
Individual Information
Birth: 1847 - Stourport, Worcs
Christening: 31 Mar 1847 - Lower Mitton, Kidderminster
Death: After 1911
Burial:
Parents
Father: Thomas Bryan (kc)
Mother: Mary Millman (kc)
Notes
General:
bap:31 Mar 1847 Lower Mitton, Worcester. f:Thomas Bryan m: Mary (IGI missing)
1851: Mitton. Thomas 40 Carpet Weaver, Mary 40, Lettitia 15, John 12, Thomas P 10, Mary Hannah 7, Henry 4
1861: Wood Croft, Sedgley Thomas 50 Machine Clerk, Mary 50, Lettila Dougel 25, John Wm 22, Thomas P 20, Henry 14 b:Stourport Labourer, Emily 10, Walter 5
1871: ?
1881: South Staffordshire General Hospital, Wolverhampton House. Henry 33 Porter
1891: Barton Regis Workhouse, Winterbourne, Gloucestershire.Henry 43 Lunatic Attendant
1901: Bristol Workhouse, Henry 54 Imbecile Attendant
1911: 249 Tettenhall Rd, W'ton. Marey Tomkys 67 b:Stourport wid, br Henery Bryan 63, sis Emily Hardman 58, n Florrey Hardman 28
Henry Bryan
Sex: M
Individual Information
Birth: 1878 - Bedminster, Bristol
Christening:
Death:
Burial:
Parents
Father: John Millman Bryan
Mother: Ann Amos
Ivy Bryan
Sex: F
Individual Information
Birth: 1896 - Bedminster, Bristol
Christening:
Death:
Burial:
Parents
Father: John Millman Bryan
Mother: Ada Mary Gibbins
Jessie Bryan
Sex: F
Individual Information
Birth: 1887 - Bedminster, Bristol
Christening:
Death:
Burial:
Parents
Father: John Millman Bryan
Mother: Ada Mary Gibbins
John Bryan
Sex: M
Individual Information
Birth: 1868 - Birmingham
Christening:
Death:
Burial:
Parents
Father: John Millman Bryan
Mother: Ann Amos
Spouses and Children
1. *FlorenceJohn Bryan
Sex: M
Individual Information
Birth: 1809
Christening:
Death:
Burial:
Parents
Father: Edward Bryan (kc)
Mother: Mary (kc)
John Millman Bryan
Sex: M
Individual Information
Birth: 1838 - Stourport, Worcs
Christening: 26 Dec 1838 - Kidderminster
Death: 1916 - Bristol
Burial:
Parents
Father: Thomas Bryan (kc)
Mother: Mary Millman (kc)
Spouses and Children
1. *Ann Amos
Marriage: 1866 - Aston, Warks
Children:
1. John Bryan
2. William Bryan
3. Walter Bryan
4. Annie Letita Bryan
5. Henry Bryan
2. Ada Mary Gibbins
Marriage: 1884 - Bedminster
Children:
1. Oliver Bryan
2. Jessie Bryan
3. Percival Bryan
4. Ivy Bryan
5. Cecil Bryan
Notes
General:
Marriage Notes (Ann Amos)
bap: John Millman Bryan bap 26 Dec 1838 Kidderminster f: Thomas Bryan m: Mary IGI
1851: Mitton. Thomas Bryan 40, Mary 40, Lettitia 15, John 12, Thomas P 10, Mary Hannah 7, Henry 4
1861: Wood Cross, Sedgley Thomas 50, Mary 50, Lettila Dougel 25, John Wm 22 Iron Puddler, Thomas P 20, Henry 14, Emily 10, Walter 5
1871: Green Bank Rd, Bedminster, Bristol. John M Bryan 32 Mill Furnace man, w Ann 25 w, son John 3, bro Thomas P 29 and sis Emily 17
1881: 3 Greenway Bush Lane, Bedminster, Bristol. John 42 Iron worker, w Ann 34, John 14, William 8, Walter 7, Ann L 5, Henry 3
1884: John William Bryan m Ada Mary Gibbins
1891: 5 Laurel Leigh View (nr Clarence Rd/Laura Tavern), Bedminster, Bristol. John W Bryan 52 Iron Worker rolling mill, w Ada M 31, William 18, Walter 17, Littico 15, Harry 12, Oliver 6, Jessie 4, Percival 1, serv Lilly Bull 13
1901: Laura Tavern, Clarence Rd, Redcliffe, Bristol John 62 Iron Worker Furnace & Beer retailer, Ada 40, Oliver 15, Jessie 14, Percy 11, Ivy 5, Cecil 8m
ch
Annie Letitia Bryan 1876 Apr-May-Jun Bedminster Vol: 5c, Page: 762
John Bryan & Ann AmosMarriage Notes (Ada Mary Gibbins)
1866 Apr-May-Jun Aston (1837-1924) Warwickshire Vol: 6d, Page: 395
John William Bryan & Ada Mary Gibbins
1884 Jul-Aug-Sep Bedminster Vol: 5c, Page: 1093
Letitia Bryan
Sex: F
Individual Information
Birth: 3 Nov 1807 - Kidderminster
Christening: 18 Apr 1808 - Kidderminster
Death: Abt 1847
Burial:
Parents
Father: Edward Bryan (kc)
Mother: Mary (kc)
Spouses and Children
1. *Ronald McDougal
Marriage: 10 Apr 1827 - Manchester
2. William Grove Holmes
Marriage: 27 Jun 1846 - Manchester Cathedral
Children:
1. Mycroft Holmes
Notes
General:
Marriage Notes (Ronald McDougal)
bap:Letitia Bryan b: 03 Nov 1807 bap: 18 Apr 1808 Kidderminster, Worcester. f: Edward Bryan m: Mary IGI
No census records yet found for a Letitia McDougal, so named, but this could be her:
1841: Hanley St, Birmingham. William Holmes 35 Japanner, William 11, Letitia 25, Ann 9 also Susannah Pearsall 47
The children in this record have the same names and ages of those of William Grove Holmes b1805 from his first marriage to Ann Smith. Also, this William has the same occupation, so, there is a good chance that this record is that of WGH - Letitia's future husband.
If so:
1) Who is this Letitia? Is it that 'our' Letitia is already living as common-law wife of WGH? (if so, why do they then go to Manchester to get married in 1846?)
2) Why is she listed between William and Ann and with far too low an age? (should be listed as 30).
3) How is Susannah Pearsall connected and is she the one that brother Thomas (& Mary)'s son Thomas is named after?
It has been suggested that Letitia died on 29 Apr1847 but this record:
Letta Holmes birth abt 1847, Simpson, Bucks d: 29 Apr 1847 f:Thomas Holmes m:Esther Bodley suggests that it was a different Letitia.
Ronald Mcdougal & Letitia Bryan 10 Apr 1827 Manchester, Lancs M01098-0 England-EASy 1545638 it 1 p 48 d LDS recordMarriage Notes (William Grove Holmes)
Letitia Mcdougal & William Grove Holmes 1846 Apr-May-Jun Manchester (1837-1924) Vol: 20, Page: 626 LDS record
From Marr Cert:
27 Jun 1846 Collegiate & Parish Church, Manchester
Groom: William Grove Holmes (wid, full age): Residence: Birmingham Occ:Button manufacturer, f:Abel Holmes, Button manufacturer
Bride: Letitia McDougal (wid, full age) Residence: Hulme f:Edward, Weaver
Witn: George Willson & Ann Willson
The Church became a Cathedral in the following year - 1847.
Letitia McDougal Bryan
Sex: F
Individual Information
Birth: 1836 - Manchester, Lancashire
Christening: 25 May 1836 - Manchester Cathedral
Death: Mar 1909 - Wolverhampton
Burial:
Parents
Father: Thomas Bryan (kc)
Mother: Mary Millman (kc)
Spouses and Children
1. *John Swinnerton
Marriage: Mar 1881
Notes
General:
bap: Letitia McDougal Bryan 25 May 1836 Cathedral, Manchester. f:Thomas Bryan m:Mary IGIResearch:
1841: Pall Mall, Lower Mitton. Thomas Bryan 30, Mary 30, Lettia Bryan 5, John 2, Thomas 4m
1851: Mitton, Worcs Thomas Bryan 40, Mary 40, Lettitia Bryan 15, John 12, Thomas P 10, Mary Hannah 7, Henry 4
1861: Wood Cross, Sedgely. Thomas Bryan 50, Mary 50, Lettila Dougel Bryan 25, John Wm 22, Thomas P 20, Henry 14, Emily 10, Walter 5
1871: where is she?
1881: m John Swinnerton (step-ch: Walter & Florence)
1881: 5 William St, Bilston. George Swinnerton 69, Sarah 71, John 38, step-dau (dil) Letitia Swinnerton 41, Walter 12, Florence 10 (step-ch)
1891: Edward St, Bilston. John Swinnerton 53 Coal dealer, Letitia 54, Walter 21, Florence 20, Thomas Bryan 80 (father)
1901: Edward St, Bilston.John Swinnerton 66, Letitia 65
d: Letitia Mcd Swinnerton 72 b:abt 1837 d:Jan-Feb-Mar 1909 Wolverhampton Vol: 6b, Page: 460
Marriage Notes (John Swinnerton)
Several researchers are of the opinion that this Letitia might be the daughter of Thomas's sister Letitia b1807 and Ronald McDougal.b1804
However, I believe this to be a more likely explanation:
Thomas's sister Letitia b1807 marries Ronald McDougal in Manchester in 1827.
Thomas & Mary marry in 1832.
No record of death for Ronald McDougal suggests that he died before 1837, if so, then a pregnant Mary might have been comforting her sister-in-law Letitia in Manchester (in the same way that we find that Mary staying with her parents not long before her father dies in 1861) when she gives birth.
Mary names her daughter Letitia McDougal Bryan after her sister-in-law (Thomas & Mary name later children in a similar way, eg: John Millman Bryan b1838 and Thomas Pearsall Bryan b1841).
If this is not the case then we need to explain why it took 6 years for T&M to have a child of their own.
Letitia Bryan & John Swinnerton
1881 Jan-Feb-Mar Wolverhampton Vol: 6b, Page: 626
Mary Bryan
Sex: F
Individual Information
Birth: 1814
Christening:
Death:
Burial:
Parents
Father: Edward Bryan (kc)
Mother: Mary (kc)